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europe china's leader in the asian powerhouse can help get its economy moving again just as possible essentials against russia threatened to hurt trade on both sides. right the french president socialist party is in local elections at the hands of center right with the anti e.u. and anti immigration national front now targeting the european values. and a haven for terror libya's former prime minister says his country is becoming a base for al qaida to plan attacks on europe weapons flowing freely into the hands of terrorists.
thanks for watching with our international. now china's leader is wrapping up a tour of europe in the story visit to brussels the very heart of the e.u. and the president has been enjoying a major charm offensive along the way. welcome comes as europe strives to increase its links with the asian giants while at the same time considering placing sanctions against russia one of its biggest other trading partners are these alexia explains why beijing wins on both accounts. in the last several weeks the word sanctions has dominated all russia related news remember the two service imposed sanctions sanctions sanctions on short run to make sure that look seventy actions will be very serious consequence so far the sanctions of the e.u. and the u.s. have been personal frozen assets of certain russians and visa bans but talk of why the economic sanctions has been circulating so we're actually stands to win and
lose if the west decides to go for that let's take a look using the example of the world's most dangerous. again chess let's imagine the e.u. moves to impose trade sanctions. but that does little to frighten moscow which could just castle in other words moving the king away from the threat it said a few of blocks or oil and gas deals the most sensitive area of business russia would instead look to the superpower on its eastern border china. where does this leave europe should it escalate sanctions its trade turnover with russia of more than four hundred billion dollars would be plunged into doubt losses like that are difficult to gauge so europe would then have to strengthen trade ties with the us who china. trade already stands at more than half a trillion dollars a year so e.u. here finds itself trapped on the board giving the advantage to china while failing to punish russia in a nutshell if the e.u. fails to think ahead in the game it might lose thirty gigli in the end even despite
making the first move well the attempt to build on relations with china means traditional criticism of beijing's human rights record is getting far less attention than usual artie's peter oliver has more. smiles and handshakes all around. that's what greeted chinese president xi jinping this first official visit to europe. to welcome unfurl in a repeat of scenes in paris just days earlier. with european governments like the one here in germany cozying up to chinese industry does this suggest that they're a little concerned that the ongoing dispute between themselves and russia over the situation in ukraine could come back to bite european countries in the bank balance sanctions and this whole uproar over crimea is simply. on the part of the e.u. but that has nothing to gain by sanctions on russia the e.u.
is considering sanctions knowing that financially they could end up shooting themselves in the fort so they aren't in the mood to criticize cash cow china too much of a longstanding human rights allegations. the e.u. further calls upon the chinese authorities to ensure that all human rights of all minorities are respected germany continues to be worried about human rights violations in china the world will be looking at china to a greater extent than it has in past years and people who also believe and how china presents itself in terms of freedom of speech and freedom of the press no though they're happy to let the business of doing business take center stage europe's real politic as a very short memory. people of a proxy. china is such an attractive prospect because it's expected to become the world's biggest economy in less than five years time its growth rate is slowing
a little but it remains well ahead of everyone else the host of venture capital katie pilbeam explains why china is a key player. the chinese economy has come a long way since being one of the poorest countries in the world back in nineteen seventy eight and now fast forward more than three decades and china is the second biggest economy in the wild now since then china has overtaken europe's powerhouse germany as you'll be able to see now it did this by reforming including mass privatizations the opening up of the country to foreign investment impressive production rates and cheap labor help them achieve this figure just here china is now the world's largest trading nation this happens in twenty thirteen is the title that was taken by the u.s. for decades now as we can see exports to china have now reached a record almost one hundred fifty a billion of these products they're mainly machinery and equipment got motor vehicles aircraft and chemicals as well. now it works both ways china is the e.u.'s
biggest supplier to just shy of two hundred eighty billion just that e.u. imports from china are dominated by industrial and consumer goods got machinery equipment footwear they love their clothing as well furniture because of course toys to china buys up german cars in their thousands china is the biggest market for economy car such as volkswagen a recent deal of eighteen point two billion just that for russia trade between the two has been escalating a last summer a multi-billion dollar deal was signed to supply china with fuel for twenty five years in money terms that creates a two hundred and seventy billion dollars and with the threat of sanctions from the west the business relationship between russia and china has never been so crucial and geographically well it makes sense because of course a to share a border china is already the second largest importer of russian goods second to
europe now by twenty eighteen china is predicted to become the world's biggest economy and with this title here comes huge political power. still to come in the program crimea gets a high level visit from russia's prime minister we'll be reporting on what's been achieved so far in the tasks which still lie ahead for russia's newest region. the french prime minister has resigned following a dismal performance by the ruling socialists in sunday's local elections the opposition center right party claimed victory and perhaps more worryingly for nationalists one major gains artesian o'neill has more. it really is the story of voters getting disillusioned with the economy in particular the high unemployment rate and the country's press are making sure that the president knows all about it some of the headlines in the main newspaper such as upset slap in the face kick in the pants that is some of the headline staring at france where all and today he is
expected later in the day to go on television live on french t.v. and possibly cabinet reshuffle but that will take nothing away from the fact that his party the socialist lost one hundred fifty times across france just a note a silver lining for the socialist party will have its first ever female marriage she is a socialist. go so that is something for them to celebrate not a lot else the moment i tell you what the european elections in may are going to be very interesting indeed as you heard there some dramatic losses for a long ruling party one hundred fifty five towns voted socialist mess and most of them have elected center right u.m.p. politicians while at least eleven times and i governed by members of marine le pen's far right national front we spoke to me but i am the pen's aide he says people have made a conscious decision this is not
a protest vote anymore it is clearly somebody which is being deeply rooted we have been heard on other subjects immigration and security we heard on social economy issues it's looks like citizens more and more want to give us a chance to be ruling need to do a better job than what has gone from the parties and there is a general trend across europe for parties as we call them and it is true there will be a massive result in the next european elections we believe not only with us but there were huge. elsewhere libya's former prime minister is concerned the country could become an al-qaeda base for any potential attack on europe and elsewhere in the world he says there is an uncontrolled flow of weapons there as well as rampant islamist extremism artie's d.m. has this report. for extremist groups looking for weapons and resources libya is
the place to be the western backed former libyan prime minister ali is a done has warned about the rise of al qaeda there he fled the country after these law misled parliament dismissed him earlier this month the nato led intervention three years ago left libya awash with weapons both from colonel gadhafi is arsenal and those provided by coalition countries to help topple the former leader. the uncontrolled flow of arms has since helped fuel terrorists throughout the region from syria all the way to west africa or worst of the story nations to libya nigeria northern mali sasa these countries have all been affected by terrorism which is a result of this new year old overthrow of the. libya and we will see its effects mostly on egypt in the next few months prior to the summer
elections you would see more violence in egypt and a lot of the weaponry coming out from libya because the libyan egyptian borders are very porous. in. libya central government has little control over the militias that have claimed different parts of the country for themselves we have evidence and we've seen evidence that maybe is becoming sort of the afghanistan of of africa and north africa specifically armed groups that seized control of libya's keep oil ports earlier in march u.s. special forces captured the north korean flag tanker with crude oil that one militia loaded to sell independent of tripoli. tripoli international airport is also under the control of gunmen most international airlines have suspended flights there after rockets struck their one way. while leaving as world. words are fighting each other cares allows terrorist networks to grow train and metastasize
libya because of its size and the remote areas is a very suitable for al qaida to make it a safe haven it's large and its its location and its access to egypt to europe and to the heart of africa so it's really a suitable place for the chaos in libya has long spilled over its borders and now poses a threat to global security it seems every day the country stepping further away from the democratic path that the u.s. and its allies invision when they helped topple colonel gadhafi three years ago in washington i'm going to check on our team well there are four hundred weapons stockpiles in libya left after the fall of gadhafi but the government currently controls just about five percent of those the rest are split between the estimated one thousand seven hundred militant groups operating in the country and they also have access to thousands of anti-aircraft missiles or weaponry missing from army
stockpiles is now circulating around the middle east and has turned up in countries ranging from mali to syria and some more numbers are here now just to give you a clearer picture of what is happening in the country well after the fall of gadhafi the annual murder rate went up seven fold and those are just the registered while all production has dropped by seven times western powers who were looking for recruiting oil contracts are now having serious trouble dealing with the very militants they helped into into power in libya that is at least a view of middle east expert sue can't channel that. what the west has achieved in libya is knocking out what is known by some as the shield or marma gadhafi was way too much of a problem for western interests particularly in relation to the hydrocarbon industry in libya but there remains a problem for the western powers which is trying to get these militias or death
squads to facilitate their oil exports to their own coffers the jointer in tripoli can't even control tripoli it is actually you know it's tense ostensibly held hostage in tripoli by at least four major death squads including those which who kidnapped misters you don and also held him hostage briefly by means of a grenade and then gone in one of his own offices so really missed is that diana and the rest of the people who have come to power literally on the wings of nato seem just ridiculous that on the one hand they allied with these death squads and then they flee because of these death squads threaten their lives so to come here are not in the national al qaida flags are raised dave armenian churches in syria islamic militants reportedly captured the christian city inspiring a global campaign to end an alleged massacre without the details in
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america series. now a. hello again i went to great crimea into the economy is a priority task coating to russia's prime minister he's on a visit to the region's capital inside say his arteries maria an ocean. mosco will make crimea paschal it can all make so with the tax breaks for investors as far as we understand both russian and for and this is what we heard from russia's prime minister dmitry medvedev who eat is eighteen crimea's capital simferopol today this region is not very attractive economically these days and of course this move this
decision is expected to help boost the regional economy much of it has come here to discuss the economic development but to grow older the integration of this new region into russia's political social economic cultural life today this is the main concern of not only crime years or russian authorities but also of local residents of the drives visit is a very significant one because the prime minister is the first russian high ranking official to visit. after historic referendum to exit go here but make these peace all fled and part of the russian federation but we expect more business like this one to come. the modern central kiev a suspected member of the right sector group has reportedly shot three people in a city street it will add to concern over the influence of ukraine's neo nazi movement ahead of may's presidential election after first being accused of remaining silent about the actions of nationalists western nations are now seeking
to contain them but as our sees an igloo she reports it may be too late. we've seen the violence. we've heard the statements from the right sectors fighters are very deep i will destroy anyone who comes here i will hang the interior minister of iraq of like a dog. you cream in extremis culture nationalist groups such as the right sector made last waves in the recent cool in ukraine moscow has been sounding the alarm for some time but only now do western officials appear to have gotten the memo i strongly condemn the pressure by activists of the right sector who have surrounded the building of your home their rada in ukraine i call on the right sector and other parties in the crane to refrain from the use of threat of violence right sector perhaps the best known of the ukrainian culture right groups has racked up quite a record besieging the parliament in two years and several occasions is to give in
violence and bloodshed during the riots stealing arms to weapons to goes to really addressed most recently the group's leader presidential hopeful dmitry jarosz was seen getting around town in the luxury armored van that used to belong to ousted president which is son the right sector confirmed the seizure with a comment quote do you want us to buy cars during a revolution and then tell me how these actions have gone by unnoticed or ignored by the west some experts believe the timing of the sudden change of heart can be easily explained when it was misty and a covert she was in power the european union didn't like him and so it supported the protests and in fact denied at that time that there was any real violence on the part of the protesters a tall it alleged that all the violence came from the police and from the security forces which i think people who were observing what was happening found incredible now when the government is a pro european government these forces have suddenly become
a matter of concern brussels may be removing the roles colored glasses now but it may be too. to late to hold back the main force behind the bloody coup that overthrew the government in kiev now that it has been unleashed. while we discuss the threat of ultra nationalism with u.k. based independent journalist martin somers unable eaves the west is to blame for the rise of radical groups in the country. what worries me very much about this is that this four rights movement in ukraine is very strongly linked in with they so terrorism in the past and possibly in the present is basically couldn't stop because they've been working very closely with these groups so they funded all of the liberal process groups the people in the in the streets who are demanding a better life but they're also funding and supporting covertly these more militant groups who will use weaponry as a matter of course. while
a luxury bullet proof chevrolet is not be anything the radicals have allegedly claimed in ukraine paintings and icons worth a million dollars have disappeared from a building guarded by the nationalist right sector group you can read the full story at r.t. dot com. armenians in syria say al-qaeda linked rebels have seized control of the mainly christian town of al-qaeda flags have been raised over armenian churches militants are now said to be a controlling the city in syria's coastal province the last attack after forcing up to two thousand armenians to flee their homes residents claim the attack was supported by mortar fire from the border those reports however have been denied by ankara this is the latest in a string of attacks by hardline islamist on ethnic and religious minorities in the war torn. by let's discuss more on this with professor
fit at the mere from oklahoma university who joins us live now thank you very much for coming on to the program armenians are accusing turkey walk a straight in the capture of the whole town why would turkey do that. sure and it's not surprise that turkey has been providing logistical support to the opposition synced uprising started almost four years ago and in allowing. free syrian army. to pass through its borders almost freely i don't see one hundred plus kilometer long border and i'm carl was initially betting that assad regime would fold in a matter of months if not two weeks as it was in libya and the longer it's a lot more difficult it becomes for our own governments to justify its actions against us on for example the two national community now having said that i don't think turkey has directly involved itself in the attack they just attack against the measure cherami and booklets of. the italian stuff is strategically is
important because it is one of the last remaining border posts here lobbying the free syrian army members to pass through the from contact via turkey to a syrian side and on the mid syrian cos it's strategically very important and i'm pretty sure the turkey has provided all kind of solutions to support including immunization providing there is no incentive lying down to pass freely treats boarders but i don't think it was directly involved in the attacks against our main comments your syrian army and some people have also mentioned in historical fact hammer's the night if it is exactly century since the armenian genocide think that coincidence of all are you reading anything into that i really don't think so because turkey has been trying very hard because of its past regarding india cities against army and of the first order war so much so did the foreign minister and to
be fair on his side when he was to die i mean diaspora in the us he had in south said it you are not army in diaspora you are turks diaspora you are people you are from our country i don't think i was any moment and i. frankly turkey would try everything it can to avoid in a such impression now recently there was a fighter jet that was shut down a syrian fighters hit by the turkish military and i have seen some reports are alleging that it was part of this fort it gets to islam it's in syria against a castle and the army is but i don't think sign this is a highly contentious or fear and fighter jets have been flying real close to the border and plus it was before the election so there might be multiple want to asians behind why turkey shut down the syrian fighter jets but i don't think it has anything to do it defected this down is more a measure chilly by by all means although i do genocide until i think we'll see an international response to this latest alleged atrocity do you think international
countries will get involved or respond to any calls for help. unfortunately i don't see that happening i already as for almost four years the bloodshed in syria is just getting more siebert day. landscape and more as extract last year has been destroyed if you look if you can in china disaster and of millions of people that are if internally displaced as well as externally lebanon is suffocated from there if e.g. flow and despite that the gulf states aside it has been pouring still tons of money into rebel fighters and. and frankly again there's there's a significant amount of the so-called free syrian army more than an italian separate groups under the flag of free syrian army and quite often than not they are fighting against each other as well and. france or dale qaeda affiliated groups are increasingly becoming more vocal and many of their members are not even from
the region they are coming from western europe all the way to kake asia russia and flooding syria and you never know it is like a loose cannon you never know rend it will turn against you against your own people and you have to take into account your kid has a scene if guns. stance just its population with a large minorities as well as minorities along the border towns and you know many will start attacking people and ever recent bombings just last year if you remember in ontario it's killed more than fifty people in turkey and last month there was another bomb being from this fire just it pastor a church it is a floor situation is to demand you have to interrupt you now because we are running at a time but thank you very much for your opinions might be going to nigeria are to internationalise fit them in a professor at oklahoma university thank you. that's going to round up some other means embrace right offices five take acid protest and staging a rally against three simply she things in the u.s. city of albuquerque crowds block traffic near the local university police are being
accused of twenty three fatal shooting scenes. twenty ten including the shooting of a homeless man which appeared on you tube last tuesday and caused a public outcry brazilian security forces have started to patrol the slums of rio de niro to clear the areas of drug gangs the head of this year's football world cup nearly one hundred twenty people were arrested and more than three hundred guns seized when police moved in on sunday slums and the tories for their high crime rates elsewhere north and south korea having exchanged fire into the sea across their disputed western seaboard or so says it returned fire after pyongyang shelled its territorial waters during a drill people living on a border island were taken into shelters during a three hour incident. now a danish travel agency is posing a simple yet vital question can sex save denmark
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where i will be back in about half an hour's time with more news up next though it's something. you know what i don't like fake scandals sort i saw the article the trained killers of vladimir child army oh i knew i was in for a treat the online version of the article which has a less alarming title tells the shocking truth of the barracuda sports club which trains young children in various activities like hiking wrestling and even using firearms firstly by vladimir's child army they must mean putin but the thing is that this is not a network of government training facilities it's just one camp and there is nothing on their site or materials to indicate that is a government facility or that putin has anything to do with it at all furthermore
in the soviet union there was a universal military skills class taught in all schools called and v.p. if putin really wanted a quote child army then bringing that program back would be a lot better than a private joke last twenty kids and it secondly the young people who want to learn to use guns or wrestle as train killers is liberal nonsense these kids are training to kill but to learn discipline and how to defend themselves if need be and guess what we live in a world of lot of evil in it you can face up to that fact and learn to defend against it or submit to it that's your choice this article is journalism at its absolute worst purposefully misleading the reader i mean what anyone sane called the boy scouts of america obama's cult of child stormtroopers of course not but that's just my opinion. well come to that xan siberian. places you never go to.
the region was making india stand beside russia saying how the west is taking a confrontational stance that you are an indian journalist sink is my guest today. ukraine's crisis centry polls across the globe as western states slap sanctions on russia calling for moscow's isolation to define countries of the brics blog throwing their support behind one of their members will the crisis in ukraine be the spark to turn the world. around the brics countries mounds of challenge to western dominance. and here it is it is seen near indian journalist niehaus saying thank you very much for being with us today we're going to start from the un general assembly vote there were condemning crimea referendum india has abstained earlier the russian president thanked india for its take on crimea. what's making
it is so supportive of russia on this issue. what i think india that you today is that russia is a friend of india that is point to our secondly obviously as a nation state it is very modern mindful of its sovereignty and integrity but there are particular circumstances in which this drama has happened and i think india is very conscious of that and that is why the abstention and the united nations but i remember the indian position on the conflict with georgia in two thousand and eight was for strain but this time new delhi has supported moscow openly saying russia has legitimate interests in crimea what's different this time what has changed over the years. well i think the realization that this was the strategic challenge presented to russia by the west the united states and the european union and i think it was a case of containing the russian federation to the extent that you have
a nation of forty five million who should the underbelly of the russian federation and you go ahead and try to co-opt it to the list. in real terms it was a challenge to do russia's interests so are you saying india is less wary of going against the west. well i think that the. have of course commented on in several pieces that this was really a challenge and against the background of what the west has done to the russian federation after the breakup of the soviet union and as everybody knows the various promises made to russia. germany reification for instance and later in terms of not bringing nato. around russia the balkans and
poland. they are all these promises that were not fulfilled so what is russia to make of it but what does india have today with it i'm just trying to figure out there that they main reason for such a strong support is it economic or really politics no i think it's basically basically political because. as i've suggested that considers a shot at fred and i think it is mindful of the real geopolitical interests of the russian federation and i think india's view although not articulated as such was that it was late in order that moscow tries to culture these moves which mental too to the russian national interests it's as simple as that i think now there's so much cooperation between moscow and delhi
going on on all levels the west becoming less important for india compared to russia. no i think the west is important to have specially the united states. for various reasons i mean whether it's trade or of course a very substantial military relationship with russia now in the soviet union in the past so it's a very potent element of india as a military muscle but. paulton. of technology modern technology we also i think. high level. the united states and europe up to a point so it is also an important element of the relationship but i think in this particular instance. what new delhi is concerned about is that the attempt
to isolate the russian federation i don't think india agrees with that now we also hear the words international community very often are and are still condemnation of this particular crisis but as this latest general assembly vote on crimea indicates there see abstained or voted with russia represent a huge percentage of the world's population to fill the positions off countries like india are ignored with this catch all term. well i i think many countries are what it about the integrity eg because you know many countries or many parts of the word on that count and the energy the russians have given. of course of all. it is an arguable point so i think to be to play on the safe side there is of course message a lot of pressure as you can imagine a vote in the u.n.
general assembly but even otherwise the integrity and is an important one for most countries. so if you rein in that china's attention in the united nations security council on russia's policy in crimea racists disturbing questions what exactly are they. was. the big question basically i think it's a question of a good. is a nation state. not entitled to protect its. territorial limits. there again it's an arguable point. as i said the constable and analogy is interesting but i don't think it commences everybody and hence this difference now in regards to ukrainian sat that it's difficult to see how one half of that country what it stiff attachment to russia can leave what it
to an anti russian or a and haitian in the other but doesn't india deal with a very similar situation as well. well india has problems in the north east and of course there is the problem of kashmir. but india today deals with it in terms of trying to integrate. these areas where there is better of difference of opinions and divisions. among the population of the particular areas but i think in crimea scale is to begin with. of course as everybody knows it was a part of the soviet union and it was crucial for gifted it to what was then a part of the soviet union which as you create in the republic. and if you have a population of nearly sixty percent ethnic russians you have the all major
warm water off. base for your old black sea fleet. and then you have a west which is made new rig. in terms of. seeking to coopt it we didn't the european and the west and said then obviously there are problems for russia it's going to react which is what i have been suggesting that you threaten the basic interests of the russian federation and expect that they will not be a reaction and of course despite the consequences this is a major question of geopolitics because. the russian federation cannot be at the mercy of the west in terms of its base. whether it will stay there and how long it will stay there and it is obviously
question of possible blackmail. well variety of reasons i think. in my view it was clear that the russian state would take action in terms of corp being. the middle of all of the rest of us in this particular instance and i think that is what you and what they did because we all know i was going to suggest that we all know. how during. he was made a folk hero by the west and they walked all over here and all over the russian federation and there they call. despite the provinces it is now they say they were suggestions and not real promises and so on they co-opted poland into nato the co-op to the baltic states into nato. so this was the last of the major jigsaw puzzles which they wanted to complete in my view but if you put aside three of the
power struggle between the west and russia and also put aside the crimean instance we're talking about ukraine and what's left of it right now there's still a deep divide between the west and the east what do you think could be the best solution for the country to stay together. what i see there has to be a conviction. that you have. created over to the mainland you created. the east. which is a russian tradition and of religion and folklore all. trade and so on which is not being represented today in this interim set up. the only statement that i have seen from the interim prime minister is that you know telling the people in the east. that gave
you the way disappointed me but basically they are not true presented to all fifty one knob of the country. stand today. but they're saying we're going take a short break now and when we come back we'll continue talking to veteran indian journalist niehaus saying what does the rise of new players on the scene mean for the future of international politics stay with us. we should not have invaded iraq britain was responsible that as much as the united states knew it was wrong russia condemned it quite rightly but it's no fun they
took in two months will go in the same way wait a second excuse me we're is the why dilution of international law when the president has already been established in the judgment has already been brought down in the international courts from the situation in kosovo from the situation in south sudan again you can't have. both ways you can be the arbiter of international law one day and then the defender of international law the next manipulating it to your own advantage this is the policy of the united states in the western powers more generally and somehow they don't like it when another country with its power flexes its muscles in order to protect its own strategic interests this is an absolute absurdity. i know c.n.n. the m s n b c news have taken some not slightly but the fact is i admire their commitment to cover all sides of the story just in case one of them happens to be accurate. that was funny but it's closer to the truth and might
think. it's because when full attention in the mainstream media works side by side the joke is actually on here. and our teen years we have a different thread. because the news of the world just is not this funny i'm not laughing dammit i'm not going. to the jokes i will hand over their site. the whole. of our democratic.
era back with niehaus saying better engine journalist talking about the situation in crimea mr sink india sat it recognizes russia's legitimate interest and ukraine why do you think that the european union and the united states never considered the same approach. because. they believed that they had what they would be called a wall. that you know since russia was in a weaker position. in their view that they could that they could get away with it and they competed. as they see it so president obama said in brussels that everyone
has the right to leave the life they choose so that we can keep the wonder why do you think he doesn't extend that right to those in crimea well he's arguing. that point to rule the that the constitution and all of you create does not provide for this kind of the saying that without the blessings of. that is obvious that. goes into good the question of possible analogy. and the russians have been making a point of that i think so you have two views on that and obama is stressing one particular kind. if you want the issue of crimea right now does ukraine stand a chance of entering the european union what i think they are being a little cautious at the moment. because as you know the say that they have signed this agreement but kept certain provisions of it. have been because
they say was let the elections be true and then we should negotiate the parts of the agreement brig bring into fruition the other parts of the agreement but i think the attempt of the european union would be to make. make ukraine a member of the european union yes that seems to be. after everything that has happened to these in the and leave russia in a stronger position on the international arena or just opposite. no i did what. it is an indication that russia is going to fight for its basic core interests that is point one that russia had made there's going to be a chamberlain east west relations that we are seeing every day for the last few weeks. that will continue for some time i think the west understands
that what is happening in crimea whatever they take about it is irreversible. and the whole effort seems to be to suggest that russia shouldn't go to the mainland the ukrainian mainland to my mind i don't think russia is interested in going in on this is a cataclysm so. in this sense russia is in a stronger position in terms of. its ability and its demonstration that if the west is going to hobble the basic it. must go. fight for it. and it is true of that but what it's inspection from the g. eight i think russia will fill the consequences. well i think there will be consequences which we have seen some of them the sanctions seem to be more cosmetic
then real in real terms of course they have threatened more consequences what is surprise me in this whole episode or series of episodes i would say is that i thought the german johnson. was more sober than she proved to be because she was she's rather hard light then i thought that she firstly as a russian speaker and secondly as having lived in their former east germany. that she she had a greater sense of russian interests and russian psychology. surprised me a bit that she's been. so hard in terms of our coverage all right but as far as russia suspension from the g eight coast do you think that's going to be a real blow to russia or is the membership of the g twenty where economies on the right side more say is more important well. it was
a symbolic thing and it was supposed to be a prestige issue for for moscow that is point two is obviously g twenty has its importance of the fact that the. that russia is no will no longer be at least for some time to come as a member of the g eight i think that that will. make the g twenty more interesting in terms of russian reactions on major of the image yes and of the brics countries have supported russia's participation in the upcoming g twenty meeting as contrary to a proposition from australia will we see a rift within the g twenty caused by the crimea crisis. well there might be tensions up to a point but. i don't think the world can do away with. a nice institution like g twenty because it is a it's
a rather representative one and that expresses. one of the things that this u.n. security council to the sort of stupid does not represent today as everybody knows . everybody talks about a reform of the u.n. permanent membership of the u.n. security council and as we know there are too many western interests preventing it from happening so all there we are i mean this is one of the few. more representative organizations of the world so to that extent it's important yes but if we talk about the brics for example there is problem inside the block the conflict between india and china for instance how the partnership evolved taking into account the conflicts inside. obviously the conflicts between india and china and their clogs the interest among some of the other countries but that is a part of
a lot of geopolitics part of the world. to the extent that. countries with differences like india and china meet at a certain forum and discuss issues to that extent i think it is a helpful thing for better understanding between the two countries and among the other countries who. can brics countries who are already coming up with an alternative to i am half really changed the world economies dependence on the dollar. well that is a long term project because. you know you are getting in prominence the chinese currency. your role is no it's not a substitute but it is. substantial into the actual. getting more soul. to replace the dollar i think you know some say brics is not
a club of friendship between countries but it's really a club of friendship against the west is a brics block capable of becoming a valid counterbalance to post-war western domination. while that is the hope of several countries especially the the emerging but i don't think you can say that with any great confidence at the moment the way things are. it has the potential to but i don't think it has reached that potential. but the brics countries they're not as united. on issues as the nato for example what's the reason for that well because of their very did trish because of the national interest call id like india and china on the border for instance. and the other major interests i mean. among the g.
twenty countries. unless you can resolve those basic problems there are limitations to how far that can go i mean as as brics so well do you think they'll be able to overcome those differences well i hope in course of time but not in a hurry i think or else how will they be a real alternative to the western organizations and western domination right. well at the at the moment no focal point i think as far as. the rest of the world is concerned. the focal point at one time used to be a light. that has dissipated i would say over time by a because of historical reasons one of the factors. and you'll have a country that you want to unite on particular issues but they also
have differences on several issues so it's a question of reconciling the differences. grasping the. themes that unite these countries so this is a process that is going on but it will take time i think but what would you say unites this country is what is that one thing that holds them together. well i think one thing is hope and prosperity the prospect of better times the fact that. they are no more specific centers of power. other said. these others issues that unite these countries that take. right thank you very much for this interesting interview we're talking to a veteran journalist in the house saying we're talking about the situation in crimea and the future for the brics countries will hold them together and whether
europe was china's leader in the asian powerhouse can help get its economy moving again just as possible ie sanctions against russia threaten to hurt trade on both sides. right the french president socialist party sufis in local elections at the hands of center right with the end he and anti immigration national front now targeting the european vote. and a haven for terror libya's former prime minister says his country is becoming a base for al qaida to plan attacks on europe with weapons flowing freely into the hands of terrorists.
it's good to have you company you're watching r.t. international now china's leader has wrapped up a tour of europe with the story visit to brussels the very heart of the e.u. and the president enjoyed a major charm offensive along the way things warm welcome comes as europe strives to increase its links with the asian giants while at the same time considering placing sanctions against russia one of its biggest other trading partners are cesar explains why beijing wins on both accounts. in the last several weeks the word sanctions has dominated all russian related news remember the juice service impose sanctions sanctions sanctions function is on to make sure that an exceptional actions will be very serious consequences so far the sanctions of the e.u. and the u.s. have been personal frozen assets of certain russians and visa bans but talk of
wider economic sanctions has been circulating so actually stands to win and lose if the west decides to go for that let's take a look using the example of the world's most ancient game chess let's imagine the e.u. moves to impose trade sanctions. but that does little to frighten moscow which could just castle in other words moving the king away from the threat it said if you are blocks or oil and gas deals the most sensitive area of business russia would instead look to the superpower on its eastern border china. to where does this leave europe should it escalate sanctions its trade turnover with russia of more than four hundred billion dollars would be plunged into doubt losses like that are difficult to relate so europe would then have to strengthen trade ties with the us who china. trade already stands at more than half a trillion dollars a year so e.u. here finds itself trapped on the board giving the advantage to china while failing to punish russia in a nutshell if the e.u. fails to think ahead in the game it might lose to teach equally in the end even
despite making the first move and the attempts to build on relations with china mean traditional criticism of beijing's human rights record is getting far less attention than usual parties peter oliver has more. smiles and handshakes all around. that's what greeted chinese president xi jinping this first official visit to europe. the welcoming perlin repeated scenes in paris just days earlier. with european governments like the one here in germany cozying up to chinese industry does this suggest that they're a little concerned that the ongoing dispute between themselves and russia over the situation in ukraine could come back to bite european countries in the bank balance sanctions and this whole uproar over crimea is simply. on the part of the e.u. but that has nothing to gain by sanctions at russia the e.u.
is considering sanctions knowing that financially they could end up shooting themselves in the fort so they aren't in the mood to criticize cash cow china too much of a longstanding human rights allegations. the e.u. further calls upon the chinese authorities to ensure that all human rights of all minorities are respected germany continues to be worried about human rights violations in china the world will be looking at china to a greater extent than it has in past years and people who also believe and how to china present itself in terms of freedom of speech and freedom of the press no though they're happy to let the business of doing business take center stage europe's real politic as a very short memory. the trial of a proxy. for china is such an attractive prospect because it is expected to become the world's biggest economy in less than five years time its growth rate is slowing
a little but it does remain well ahead of everyone else the host of venture capital katie pilgrim explains why china is a key player. the chinese economy has come a long way since being one of the poorest countries in the world back in nineteen seventy eight and now fast forward more than three decades and china is the second biggest economy in the world now since then china has overtaken europe's powerhouse germany as you'll be able to see now it did this by reforming including mass privatizations the opening up of the country to foreign investment impressive production rates and cheap labor help them achieve this figure just here china is now the world's largest trading nation this happens in twenty thirteen is the title that was taken by the u.s. for decades now as we can see e.u. exports to china have now reached a record almost one hundred fifty a billion of these products they're mainly machinery and equipment got motor vehicles aircraft and chemicals as well now it works both ways china is the e.u.'s
biggest supplier to just shy of two hundred eighty billion just that imports from china are dominated by industrial and consumer goods got machinery equipment footwear they love their clothing as well furniture and of course toys to china buys up german cars in their thousands china is the biggest market for economy cars such as volkswagen a recent deal of eighteen point two billion just there for russia trade between the two has been escalating our last summer a multi-billion dollar deal was signed to supply china with fuel for twenty five years in money terms that quits to two hundred and seventy billion dollars now with the threat of sanctions from the west the business relationship between russia and china has never been so crucial and geographically well it makes sense because of course that to share a border china is already the second largest importer of russian goods second to
europe now by twenty eighteen china is predicted to become the world's biggest economy and with this title here comes huge. political power still to come in the program crimea gets a high level visit from russia's prime minister will be reporting on what's been achieved so far and the switch still lie ahead for russia's new history. the french prime minister has resigned following a dismal performance by the ruling socialist in sunday's local elections the opposition center right party claimed victory on behalf of small worryingly the nationalists one major gains are seen as union anneal as more. it really is the story of voters getting disillusioned with the economy in particular the high unemployment rate the country's press are making sure that the president knows all about it some of the headlines in the main newspaper such as upset slap in the face
kick in the pants that is some of the headlines staring at france where all and today he is expected later in the day to go on television live on french t.v. and possibly announce the cabinet reshuffle that will take nothing away from the fact that his party the source this last one hundred fifty times across france just notes a silver lining for the socialist party will have its first ever female marriage she is a socialist. go so that is something for them to celebrate not a lot else the moment i tell you what the european elections in may are going to be very interesting indeed as you heard there some dramatic losses for francois hollande ruling party one hundred fifty five towns voted socialist mayors and most of them have elected center right u.m.p. politicians at least eleven towns are now governed by members of marine le pen's national front we spoke to madame le pen say he says people have made
a conscious decision. this is not a protest vote anymore it is clearly somebody which is being deeply rooted we have been heard on other subjects in immigration insecurity we are being heard on social economy issues it's looks like citizens more and more want to give us a chance to be ruling to do a better job than what has been done from actual parties in france there is a general trend across europe for pressure to cure parties as we call them and it is true that there will be a massive result in the next the european elections we believe not only with us but with our future allies i guess libya's former prime minister is concerned the country could become an al qaeda base for any potential attack on europe and elsewhere in the world he says there is an uncontrolled flow of weapons there is what is rampant islamised extremism. reports. for
extremist groups looking for weapons and resources the place to be the western backed form a libyan prime minister ali is a done has warned about the rise of al qaeda there he fled the country after these law misled parliament dismissed him earlier this month the nato led intervention three years ago left libya awash with weapons both from colonel qaddafi's arsenal and those provided by coalition countries to help topple the former leader. the uncontrolled flow of arms has since helped fuel terrorists throughout the region from syria all the way to west africa or worst of the story nations to libya nigeria northern mali sasa these countries are all been affected by terrorists and equally which is result of this year old overthrow of the now. libya and we will see its effects mostly on egypt in the next few months prior to
the summer elections you would see more violence in egypt. a lot of the weaponry coming out from libya because the libyan egyptian borders are very porous. libya's central government has little control over the militias that have claimed different parts of the country for themselves we have evidence and we've seen evidence that maybe is becoming sort of the afghanistan of of africa and north africa specifically armed groups that seized control of libya's keep oil ports earlier in march u.s. special forces captured a north korean flag tanker with crude oil that one militia loaded to sell independent of tripoli. tripoli international airport is also under the control of gunmen most international airlines have suspended flights there after rockets struck their one way. while libya's warlow. they're fighting each other cares
allows terrorist networks to grow training and metastasize libya because of its size and the remote areas is a very suitable for al qaida to make it a safe haven it's large and it's its location its access to egypt and to europe and to the heart of africa so it's really a suitable place for the chaos in libya has long spilled over its borders and now poses a threat to global security it seems every day the country stepping further away from the democratic path that the u.s. and its allies invasion when they helped topple colonel gadhafi three years ago in washington i'm going to r.t. while there are four hundred weapons stockpiles in libya left after the fall of gadhafi but the government currently controls just five percent of them and the rest are split between the estimated one thousand seven hundred militant groups
operating in the country but also have access to thousands of anti aircraft missiles or weaponry missing from army stockpiles is now circulating around the middle east and has turned up in countries ranging from mali all the way to syria and we've got some more numbers here for you to give you a clearer picture of what is happening in the country after the fall of gadhafi and no murder rate went up seven fold and those are just the register or production has dropped by seven times western powers who were looking for lucrative oil contracts and i having serious trouble dealing with the very militants they helped into power at least that is the view of middle east expert so you can't. what the west has achieved in libya is knocking out what is known by some as the shield or marma gadhafi was way too much of a problem for western interests particularly in relation to the hydrocarbon industry in libya but there remains a problem for the western powers which is trying to get these militias or death
squads to facilitate their oil exports to their own coffers the jointer in tripoli can not even control tripoli it is actually. ostensibly held hostage in tripoli by at least four major death squads including those which who kidnapped mr z. don and also held him hostage briefly by means of a grenade and hand gun in one of his own offices so really missed is that diana is and the rest of the people who have come to power literally on the wings of nato seem just ridiculous that on the one hand they allied with these death squads and then they flee because of these death squads threaten their lives. coming up on our national al-qaeda flags have raised. in syria islamic militants reportedly capture a christian city inspiring a global campaign to end in the alleged massacre we've got the details on this
after the break. we should not have invaded iraq britain was responsible that as much as the united states and it was wrong russia condemned it quite rightly but it's now violating international law in the same way well wait a second excuse me where is the violation of international law when the president has already been established in the judgment has already been brought down in the international courts from the situation in kosovo from the situation in south sudan again you can't have it both ways you can't be the arbiter of international law one day and then. the defender of international law the next manipulating it to your own advantage this is the policy of the united states and the western powers more generally and somehow they don't like it when another country with its power flexes its muscles in order to protect its own strategic interests this is an absolute absurdity.
nothing. now i. cut out again i integrate in crimea into the economy is a priority task according to russia's prime minister he is on a visit to the region's capital in their sole sight maria an option. mosco will make crimea paschal it cannot mix so with tax breaks for investors as far as we understand both russian and for and this is what we heard from russia's prime minister dmitry medvedev who is in crimea as capital seem to operate today this
region is not very attractive economically these days and of course this move this decision is expected to help boost the original foreign division that has come here to discuss the economic development with broader integration of this new region into russia's political social economic cultural life because today this is the main concern of not only crimea is or russian authorities but also of local residents of the drives visit is a very significant one because the prime minister is the first russian high ranking official to visit this region after a historic referendum to exit go here that made this piece of flesh and part of the russian federation but we expect more business like this one to come meanwhile in central kiev a suspected member of the right sector group has reportedly shot three people in a city street it will add to concern over the influence of ukraine's new movement ahead of may's presidential election of the first being accused remaining silent
about the actions of nationalist western nations are now seeking to contain them but as artie's reports it may be too late. we've seen the violence. we've heard the statements from the right sectors fighters are very big i will destroy anyone who comes here i will hang the interior minister of iraq of like a dog. you bring in extremist culture nationalist groups such as the right sector made last waves in the recent cool in ukraine moscow has been sounding the alarm for some time but only now do western officials appear to have gotten the memo i strongly condemn the pressure by activists of the right sector who have surrounded the building over there holding their rada in ukraine i call on the right sector and other parties in the crane to refrain from the use of threat of violence right sector perhaps the best known of the ukrainian all to right groups has racked up
quite a record besieging the parliament in kiev and several occasions is to give in violence and bloodshed during the riots stealing armstrong weapons to goes to really addressed most recently the group's leader presidential hopeful dmitry jarosz was seen getting around town in the luxury armored van that used to belong to ousted president which is son the right sector confirmed the seizure with a comment quote do you want us to buy cars during a revolution and then tell me how these actions have gone by unnoticed or ignored by the west some experts believe the timing of the sudden change of heart can be easily explained when it was misty on a covert she was in the european union didn't like him and so it supported the protests and in fact denied at that time that there was any real violence on the part of the protestors a tall it alleged that all the violence came from the police and from the security forces which i think people who were observing what was happening for. when the
government is a pro european government these forces have suddenly become a matter of concern brussels may be removing the rolls colored glasses now but it may be too late to hold back the main force behind the bloody coup that overthrew the government in kiev now that it has been unleashed. we discuss the threat of ultranationalists and with u.k. based independent journalist martin summers and he believes the west is to blame for the rise of radical groups in the country. what worries me very much about this is that this four right movement in ukraine is very strongly linked in with they so terrorism in the past and possibly in the present is basically a coup d'etat because they've been working very closely with these groups so they funded all of the liberal process groups the people in the in the streets who are demanding a better life but they're also funding and supporting covertly these more militant groups who refuse weaponry as a matter of course while
a luxury blitzkrieg chevrolet is not the only thing the radicals have allegedly trained in ukraine as paintings in icons worth a million dollars have disappeared from a building guarded by the nationalist reich sect agree you can read the full story at r.t. dot com. armenians in syria say al-qaeda linked rebels have seized control of the mainly christian town of al-qaeda flags have been raised over armenian churches are militants are now said to be patrolling the city in syria's coastal province of taqiyya after forcing up to two thousand armenians to flee their homes residents claim the attack was supported by mortar fire from the turkish border but those reports however have been denied by ankara several hundred families who escaped shortly before the sell to being given given shelter in a christian church in a neighboring city r.t. managed to speak to several witnesses. i have two children my husband left he
said he would join us but we've heard nothing from him i don't know where years. to get the bombardment started early morning we struggled to save our son we were laying on the ground because of the heavy bombing the boy only just escaped we could take nothing from our home we had a huge library armine literature my wife is a teacher at the local school a minute. nothing routes look no there is no getting out we just left with what they were where. for further discussion when i joined live by our party and he's from the armenian national committee of america thank you very much for coming on to the program this evening the attack has led to protests in the u.s. and they're also being coals for an international response to this what do you think will happen next are we likely to see some action from abroad. we certainly hope so we know that it's been ten days now since al-qaeda affiliated militants
attacked the city of kufa which is right on the turkish border we know that those attacks came from the direction of turkey that the wounded were carried back to turkey that given the geography of the region the only place that those assaults but a virgin was from the turkish side as a result over two thousand armenians were depopulated out of the last remaining armenian town of the former territory of the ottoman empire which is a very tragic thing for us as armenians for armenians around the world syria gave safe haven to armenians after the armenian genocide and to see this last village to populate it is a cause for great alarm for millions around the world and that's why we're mobilizing so aggressively that you touched on there that you thought it was a lot of evidence suggesting to be involved not long ago several trucks transporting weapons were seized on the way to syria from to carry. way do you think they may have been headed is this part of an escalation do you think in what we're seeing in these involvement. absolutely. clearly turkey has.
escalated small that militarily within syria just recently a youtube video was released of the turkish foreign minister applauding military intervention prime minister had on protested the posting of that you tube video but never denied its veracity so essentially we have a turkish prime minister himself acknowledging that he was his government was planning an intervention i think we saw that intervention on march twenty first we've seen the results we have talked to our government the u.s. state department on the subject and we welcomed the fact that samantha power at the united nations in the state department itself condemned the violence said they were deeply concerned about the violence what troubles us though is that there was no no taking of turkey to task turkey was given a free pass this this escalation of the conflict this violation of its obligations . the best that we got from the state department was that they pass along turkey's
denials as armenians who have dealt with more than nine decades of turkey's denials of the armenian genocide we know what that's miles worth it's an absolute lie and we need to mobilize folks around the world in russia and armenia and in the united states canada mexico south america australia wherever there are many and we're mobilizing on this there's a hash tag save the hash tag save that is trying to do around the world we've had the support of share and can cardassian and many celebrities who helped draw the attention of political figures to this issue. i think we need to shine the spotlight of public scrutiny on what turkey is doing that and is there a justified failure to keys looking perhaps for a full scale war to be unleashed. in syria. well i think that speaking more narrowly to the armenian context i can tell you that turkey has an interest in destroying the last armenian vestige on its border which
is that the target. i think they also have shown. very little restraint in trying to calm the waters and syria in fact done the opposite which is to escalate the conflict the question i keep coming back to is if if for example ten years ago the talk in washington was why isn't turkey in the european union i think that the talk increasingly in the city is why is turkey still in nato there's another set of values and increasingly a lot of common interests and i think that those are the questions i think that need to be addressed very seriously ok well thank you very much for giving us your thoughts. party and from the armenian national committee of america thank you thank you. now a danish travel agencies posing a simple get vital question can sex save denmark a promotional video entitled do it for denmark hopes to help the country deal with
the aging populations dramatically falling birth rate and any couple that can prove they conceived while on holiday will get more than just a bundle of joy in nine months time even longer term he was from the company responsible told us why your pains are getting bored in the battery we're at the lowest number in twenty seven years and it's an actual sixty eight here in denmark with a view so we're having babies enough to support the elderly people here well what we did was we elijah's with a doctor and with a specialty in six and she said that part of the answer was that people were to be seen in their it daily life and they needed to get away so we hope of course that we can encourage people to take a break from their daily life and have some romance. ok well let's have a look at some figures showing to underline what was being said there they should
just that europe is facing some baby blues with a population predicted to fall by fourteen million by twenty fifty the numbers also show the continent is that getting older to you only sixteen percent of people are below the age of fifteen and that's compared to forty one percent in african and twenty five percent in asia people in middle age represent sixty seven percent of the population while almost a fifth sixty five years or older but it is predicted every third person will soon be a pensioner. now up next is the world facing another cold war patient of valor and he's cast discuss this topic crosstalk.
you know what i don't like fake scandals so what i saw the article the trained killers of led to a child army oh i knew i was in for a treat the online version of the article which has a less alarming title tells the shocking truth of the bear quote sports club which trains young children in various activities like hiking wrestling and even using firearms firstly by vladimir's child army they must mean putin but the thing is that this is not a network of government training facilities it's just one camp and there is nothing on their site or materials to indicate that is a government facility or that putin has anything to do with it at all furthermore in the soviet union there was a universal military skills class taught in all schools called and v.p. if putin really wanted a quote child army then bringing that program back would be a lot better than a private jet a class twenty kids in it secondly the young people who want to learn to use guns or wrestlers train killers is liberal nonsense these kids are training to kill but
to learn discipline and how to defend themselves if the need be and guess what we live in a world of lot of evil and if you could face up to that fact and learn to defend against it or submit to it that's your choice this article is journalism at its absolute worst purposefully misleading the reader i mean what anyone sane called the boy scouts of america obama's cult of child stormtroopers of course not but that's just my opinion. going to the polls for the birds. the columbine. both. are democratic plans for our. current national but. there's a so we leave that maybe. by the scene. for your party
there's a goal. for shoes that no one is asking with the guests that deserve answers from. politics only on our t.v. . hello and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered on peter lavelle cold war two point zero there are those who claim the manufactured crisis in ukraine is drawing new lines and defining new geopolitical realities others are dismissive they say the old cold war never really came to an end so is russia and the west doomed to be adversaries.
crossed out whether there is a new cold war i'm joined by my guests geoffrey hosking in london he is an american professor of russian history at university college london in berlin we have wolfgang richter he is a security expert with the german institute for international and security affairs as well as a former c.e.o. inspector and in new york we cross to eric draitser he is a geo political analyst and founder of stop imperialism dot org all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i very much encourage it jeffrey in london if i can go to you first are the west and the russia destined to be adversaries. i think the situation since the cold war has really been very difficult and one of the problems is memory memory of the cold war the fact that the poles the baltic republics the czechs and one karin's have a clear memory of being dominated by the soviet union experience which they didn't like so that as the years went by and the warsaw pact fell apart they wanted
a new form of security and they therefore invited the european union and nato to take over in their countries russia of course resented that felt it was being encircled and so we've got to the present situation where the cold war really seems to have descended the game with russian invasion of georgia in twenty eight and now the russian invasion of part of of ukraine ok eric just as a point of order and they behave there's been no invasion of crimea and mr saakashvili started the war in two thousand a professor you may disagree with me but that's a historical fact erick what drives all of this here because it got a bunch of which promised that nato whitney expand so is this really what it's all about is now nato expansion. absolutely nato expansion is really at the center of this entire geo political conflict and we should remember also that with the end of the soviet union not only was there an
agreement upon the idea that nato would not be expanding eastward but it was understood among the most principled individuals within international relations circles that nato expansion was not only unnecessary but that it would be dangerous and yet in the recent in the recent past the last twenty years we have seen nothing but nato expansion the absorption of the baltic states the creation of a nato colony in kosovo the absorbtion of georgia and other former soviet republics all of this has been an eastward expansion of nato and that really lies at the heart of the so-called new cold war and i would also add that this is part of the basic premise of why the western powers and the media machine in the west must demonize putin must make president putin into some kind of a latter day ivan the terrible or some reincarnation of stalin or something like this it is in order to justify what is undoubtedly an unjustifiable policy that is
the need to make people in the west believe that nato expansion is not aggressive policy that it is merely defensive that it is designed as a bulwark against russian expansion which is of course nonsense to anybody who is paying attention whether you look at the policy advisers in china whether you look at prominent officials in europe who know that this policy is flawed everybody agrees that it is nato that is the expansive power not russia ok do you agree with really even the nato is the problem and at the same time and i'd like to point out is that you know we have to keep in mind that russia has its own geopolitical interest it seems like nato always dismisses the go ahead. first of all i would like to answer your question russia and the western states are not doomed to be adverse the results are completely wrong notion we should not speak knowledge about the cold war we have no system confrontation nor really military
confrontation as a bloc confrontational rich we had earlier and we have no ideological confrontation when you come back to the roots of the conflict now your shoulders are mention that the first nato enlargement was enshrined in a key in some instruments that were agree its by russia and by nato states so for example nato russia council was established the nato national founding act there or c e o was beefed up and finally we agreed on a common strategy for a pan european security space was all dividing lines and was geopolitical zero sum games we also agreed on an adopted see if you treaty so that was well and try and up to two thousand and one something after two years of thousand and one went wrong ok jeffrey i'd like to go back to you in london is nato really at the heart of this conflict that some people call a new cold war because it is the auld remembers what we had before nato and then
what was packed it dissolved itself and now russia is on the other side is nato the problem. i think the problem is on both sides i think both the west and russia have made very serious mistakes during the twenty years since the end of the cold war and i can't agree with you that russia didn't invade crimea it organized a military occupation of crimea of course some of the soldiers were there already but the fact is they took over in military manner well to the light by treaty by treaty arrangement professor russia could have twenty five thousand troops there that doesn't seem to be reported very much in western media on that it was there on the go you know i don't know it's a matter of fact if since you brought up the point i'd like to finish the point is that russia doesn't even have up to twenty five thousand troops there now it is even exceeded its treaty obligations though that's a moot point because crimea now is part of russia the troops were there
by treaty but they were supposed to be on their bases not over the whole territory of crimea certainly a military occupation whether you call it an invasion or not ok but it's grown out of a long history of tension between the west and russia for which both sides are responsible both sides of made serious mistakes as a historian i try to understand what russia is doing and what russians feel and i explain it to western audiences who don't understand it well but i must make clear to you what western audiences and western people feel about what's happening in russia well unfortunately they don't listen to historians enough like yourself eric if i can go to you here this program isn't specifically about ukraine but let's look at the security architecture because for the last few years last decade russia has asked to be treated as a partner with nato in nato refuses a partnership one has to be superior one has to be inferior. that's absolutely correct and i have to push back on the previous point that was
made this is a fallacy in the western world in my judgment the notion that all parties must be equally condemn that everyone is equally responsible it was not russia that moves strategic missiles into eastern europe menacing russia with a so-called missile shield it was not russia that expanded what is undoubtedly the most powerful military force in the world it was not russia that heightened these tensions so we should be i think cautious about this notion of let's condemn everyone equally and quite frankly we heard it very clearly just the other day in brussels from president obama the notion that there is some sort of an equivalence between the united states invading and occupying iraq killing more than a million people and creating an absolutely failed state in that country and somehow that that is morally superior to what the russians have done in crimea without firing a single shot and bringing back into the. russians for this is absolute nonsense. jeffrey you want to react to things that are sort of want to be in favor
of the russian freedom additional fees. trip become right now when it wasn't then. crane is a foreign country tourist thought and it's really we should not have invaded iraq britain was responsible that as much as the united states and it was wrong russia condemned it quite rightly but it's now it's now violating international law in the same way eric do you want to reply. well wait a second excuse me where is the violation of international law when the precedent has already been established in the judgment has already been brought down in the international courts from the situation in kosovo from the situation in south sudan again you can't have it both ways you can't be the arbiter of international law one day and then the defender of international law the next manipulating it to your own advantage this is the policy of the united states in the western powers more generally and somehow they don't like it when another country with its power flexes
its muscles in order to protect its own strategic interests this is an absolute absurdity ok wolfgang if i go to you in berlin. was it correctly please let me go to berlin now go ahead you want to jump in. first first let me say that i strongly agree it was just in london that the point is that mistakes were made on both sides it is no argument to say that somebody has violated international law. international law as a person objects to the cases in iraq or kosovo in iraq goes of germany abstained from participating as a persistent object russia should not justify. a violation of international law by the fact that others are violated as a vote so i agree it is just for there were mistakes made on both sides the question is is that a reason to give up security cooperation in europe would like us to fight in ninety
if i can say well what about self-determination i mean call civil was given it's self-determination against international law entreaties but crimea does the same but it's wrong in the west why. could of course say that war in nine hundred ninety nine laws of international law. the fact that the un security council did not agree to the veto of russia on the other hand the rest as you know there were no mate again i'm sorry to cut you off at this point gentlemen all we have to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the new cold war state with hockey. league.
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here. spanish find out more visit i. think. is a. welcome back to cross talk we're all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing whether there is a new cold war. ok eric i'd like to go back to you in new york mention something the first part of the program that i think is quite interesting is that i think one of the reasons why there's so much tension when we look at russia and we look at china and we look at other parts of the non-western world is that they western world continues to want to write the rules all the time but they can violate their own rules when they wish
because there is no impunity not only that they feel that they are the ones who get to interpret the rules however they see fit that they establish the rules that they guard the rule book and that they get to determine whatever is in their best interests. as the euphemism that we hear so often from the united states foreign policy establishment the so-called international community well exactly who is in that international community if it's everybody all nations of the world then we have the united nations and we have international institutions for that and yet that's not what they mean what they say international community they mean those that are willing to agree and to follow lockstep u.s. policy and we have very clearly a geo political miscalculation from the united states in the western powers not only in ukraine but in eastern europe more generally the notion that they could absorb the former soviet states has not only rekindled russia's power and russia's influence it has forced much of the world to recognize that battle lines are being
drawn and this is precisely why you see elements in china in the ruling establishment in china moving ever closer to russia because they understand full well the economic crisis that exists in the western world and the political crisis as well and so what you're seeing is a shifting of alliances around the world and this is much to the chagrin of the united states and the west and to a large extent it's a matter from their miscalculations and their manipulations and i would just add one last point on this notion of international law it seems to me everyone's all of a sudden become a legal scholar yet law was thrown out the window in the my don law was thrown out the window in all of the events leading up to the crisis that we've seen now in ukraine and elsewhere when is law a political and when is not law not a political jeffrey it's seems to me that. russia and the west have different interpretations of what happened ending the cold war the original cold war if we
knew when now the west sees that russia was defeated in must follow its rules but russia sees it very differently that it opted out is this one of the historical problems we have right now of the last twenty years different interpretations about what the end of the cold war meant. yes it is actually it must be said that russia in one thousand nine hundred ninety two ninety three was very keen to accept the us interpretation and in fact russia tried seriously to cooperate with you with international institutions dominated by the united states but that didn't work largely i think because the united states and the west generally never really treated russia as a full partner and therefore in the end russia treated him to itself especially after the close of a crisis in one thousand nine hundred nine and began to build its own power to feel i think humiliated and insulted that something which putin has articulated from time to time and that's how he reacted over the georgian crisis in twenty zero eight and that's how he's reacting now in ukraine and i can understand that i don't
think it's right but i understand it also getting you know one of the interesting things i give an example of because they were looking at balance of power here back in november if we go back to the ukraine situation when unocal bitch walked away from the association agreement with the european union russia said why don't we all three sit down russia ukraine and brussels but the the the europeans dismissed it out of hand it's like how dare you we don't do it this way but they actually do it with other countries like with canada but they said no to russia why. i think you was well aware of the. double track approach needed but i have to admit of course the. trick on the russian. negotiations was the russians went too slow and the other. maybe too fast ahead and maybe that your commission was not aware of the fact the geopolitical stakes in this
negotiation and it could be that. russia and i have the feeling that russia had the perception that after that you association. with nato would maybe follow and danger some strategic. and. druids of russia i think this perception is. such a russian it was probably not the case and probably the earlier experience since two thousand and the russian leadership make of this this assessment. i would say given the situation in they were in attendance is to both sides to the russian side and to the western side one should not direct from one post. in this country but accept that the country has these two attendances don't like the notion of bipolarity is a russia or the e.u. or nato we have embarked in the early nineties and still in title and sometimes i was getting what i need for it to be. zero sum game it's always
a zero sum game i agree with you but i mean the european union acts in a very different way eric if i can go to you in new york just as an example here on february twenty first there was an egg remit to end the crisis in ukraine all sides were part of it russia was a witness to it and then the next day the european union walked away from it this is one of the another example where the west says you don't even play by your own rules we watch you we solve this one with their own eyes and you cheat this this is the origins of accompli. that's absolutely true and let me let me just respond very quickly to the previous speaker this was not some kind of a paranoid misconception from the perspective of russia with regard to nato six panshin into ukraine it was a fundamental part of the association agreement sure it was not the central portion
of it it was buried somewhere in the back of that thousand page document but it was very clear that military cooperation was part of that agreement and that the russians understood very clearly and i think very objective leigh that this was a backdoor for nato to get into ukraine and to push ever further against the doorstep of russia more to the point of what peter we were asking with regard to february twenty first this idea that somehow europe just walked away from the agreement this is absolutely critical because remember one step agreement was presented it was presented and accepted by the nominal leaders of the so-called opposition in ukraine by yachts and you can clinch go and some of the others when they presented it to their front rank and file on the on the streets and in my don it was rejected out of hand in the loudest objections came from the right sector and from the ultra nationalist who threatened violence and in fact did unleash the violence so walking away from the agreement i think was an indication not only of the of the miscalculation of the policy of the west in ukraine but of
a miscalculation of the very nature of what their operation in ukraine was we saw with the victoria nuland phone call exactly the degree to which they were manipulating it from behind the scenes and i think a lot of people internationally understand this and again this idea that russia is simply paranoid about this this is completely flying in the face of the facts and the russians understand that i think quite clearly geoffrey why should russia trust the west after all the examples we've heard on this program. well i think i've given some good reasons why russia should not i mean the thing is that of course the expansion of nato the expansion of the european union the suggestion even that georgia and ukraine should join nato naturally makes russians very suspicious it's proper for prompted a reaction from russia which i think was unwise and incorrect but that doesn't alter the fact that the west has tried to gain ukraine possibly georgia moldova and other countries as well one hundred percent and deny them to russia that is very
foolish russia in return i hope will not try and claim one hundred percent of ukraine at the moment it's its influence in ukraine except for crimea is very weak and that's very unfortunate russia needs to be a strong friend of ukraine just as the european union needs to be ok i agree with that wolfgang i mean you know i'll give a very strong opinion here washington in brussels has broken ukraine are you guys going to take responsibility for it now. you should not refer to me as your guys to sponsibility i think germany and poland do you bro foreign minister tried it so it well it seems like you guys brought the country ok i mean now they don't even have crimea we didn't if you're interrupt me i could also leave a story here just to explain what i meant that foreign ministers tried to negotiate between the competing parties in the situation of civil war was more than
eighty day that people on the street negotiate a kind of compromise and a peace this was the western or the e.u. contribution there were witnesses there were not the ones who had to negotiate as treaty partners that was up to the parties there what happened in the night of the twenty first of february was a very unfortunate and of course the parties there walked away from that agreement which we regret on the other hand we are speaking here about internal affairs of. credit but this is no pretext for a violation of international law which means expect the final let's talk about international to launch rockets are actually running out of time erica fine go to you in new york i find it utterly fascinating and disappointing that we have this telephone call with ashton in the in the stony and foreign minister and no one wants to talk about all my goodness they're killing people in them i don and they're hired by the right sector but just drops out of the news no wonder russia
feels there's a cold war coming up yeah and part of the reason they don't want to talk about that is because of a long standing policy within nato and within the west more generally of what they call managed chaos that is they're willing to create crises for the purposes of being able to then swoop in and manage these crises this is precisely the situation that we've seen in syria with the escalation of the violence there importing the terrorists into that country we saw similarly in libya we've seen it in many places . in africa from congo to rwanda and elsewhere managing the chaos is part of the strategy so that they can then manage an outcome that is to their benefit and the notion of talking about these snipers in my dawn if they were to bring that up it would put out in the open the fact that not only were they manipulating politically from behind the scenes but that there were very nefarious forces that were involved in escalating that situation in ukraine in order to exploit it for geo political advantage and again coming back to the topic of what we're discussing here sorry
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coming up on our two protesters in albuquerque new mexico rise up against police brutality activists come out in response to deadly police shootings things turned violent as local authorities used tear gas the latest on that just ahead. and it's been a decade since the murder of four security contractors in iraq a gruesome event that highlighted the risk for helping fight america's wars abroad a look at defense contractors in iraq just ahead. and in the skies of northern texas flies a mystery photos give us a glimpse of what could be a new secret spy plane more on this mystery in aviation later in the show.
that's monday march thirty first four pm here in washington d.c. on monday france you're watching are to america. police in albuquerque new mexico clashed with protesters for more than ten hours on sunday using tear gas to disperse crowds the peaceful demonstration went out of control hundreds took to the streets angry over the recent fatal police shooting of a homeless man on march sixteenth which was captured on video. you can see here in the video that's released the man rahman put up a zero zero zero from his ground ground. with live rounds i would be shot with beanbags and eventually a canine is set on him. anger in the city boiled over at the side of a residence call excessive use of force by a police department that is involved in twenty three fatal shooting since two thousand and ten critics say that's far too many for a department serving the city of just around five hundred fifty five thousand people here to talk more about the protest is our two correspondent. protests were
sparked after the killing of a homeless man james boyd what can you tell us about the background of the officers involved in the shooting sure well the two officers one of them is of sir dimming is pair is he's the one who's wearing the helmet camera where we can see him shooting james boyd a homeless man he's an iraq war veteran was injured in the war and received a purple heart he's been with the army for about eight years he's on ministry to believe leave right now the officer the other officer involved keeps saying that you know he has more of an up and down record as a law enforcement officer back in two thousand and seven he was working for the state police there in new mexico and was actually fired for the gay sions of fraud and now he was able to get hired by the albuquerque police department shortly after that and he has had some high profile wrester in his career there but obviously this latest shooting of a homeless man james boyd has once again put him in
a very controversial spotlight. how much is the excessive use of force the albuquerque p.d. cost and the taxpayers there sure well according to a report by the local people the local paper there in albuquerque so far these claims against the albuquerque police department have cost the city twenty four million dollars one of the highest profile cases was a shooting back in two thousand and ten and of an iraq war veteran who was shot by an albuquerque police a four police officer in the parking lot of a seven eleven now the city had to pay the victim's family nearly eight million dollars after that shooting and the city council president has even suggested putting. setting aside more money to deal with these settlements because there is fear that there are a lot more of these legal claims coming like at this department has been under quite a bit of a federal investigation over its actions in recent years what sort of future
actions by the community are being planned at this point sure well you know this latest protest was prompted by anonymous they put out a video calling the citizens of albuquerque to go into the streets they've also. you know urged other hackers to go after the police department their website was hacked over the weekend so there's a possibility of more cyber attacks no street protests planned as of right now and next week at the city council meeting it is expected that many angry residents will be show will be showing up to express their outrage over the shooting of james boyd are to correspond to no thank you very much. well today marks the deadline that the u.s. state department sets for all syrian diplomats to dispense consular operations and leave the country the closure comes after the assad regime announced the mission will no longer provide normal diplomatic services upon the announcement of the embassies closure u.s. secretary of state john kerry said the idea of the mission in d.c.
was quote an insult and that the assad regime has no legitimacy artes make it brings us more from the syrian embassy. at the syrian embassy in washington d.c. today the doors are closed and the phones are being left on answer to as diplomats suspended their operations indefinitely the u.s. state department or the embassy in d.c. along was to honor a consulates in michigan and texas to close and demanded for all diplomats who are not american citizens to leave the country currently there are fewer than a dozen syrian diplomats living and working within the e.u. what's now this move comes after the embassy announced this month that it will no longer provide consular services including issuing visas to foreigners newly appointed special envoy to syria daniel rubenstein says that if this consulates are not performing their diplomatic duties then there is no point in keeping them open however the state department says that this is not the end of relations between the two nations instead at the agency issued
a statement reading in part quote despite the differences between our governments the united states continues to maintain diplomatic relations with the state of syria as an expression of our longstanding ties with the syrian people and the interest that will endure long after bush our last saw that leaves power now for some background the syrian embassy in washington has not had an official ambassador since december of two thousand and eleven also in the american embassy in damascus that one closed its mission in february two thousand and twelve when the security situation began to deteriorate now if you remember many consulates in the middle east closed around that time after u.s. ambassador to libya chris stevens and several other americans died in an attack on their benghazi mission some. the embassies have opened again since then the u.s. mission in syria though has not now this closure comes at an interesting time in the conflict first of all president bashar al assad is preparing for reelection this summer if he wins it will guarantee him another seven year tenure in office
also by the end of the week syria is expected to have removed twenty three percent of its most dangerous chemicals such as mustard gas and syrian during its disarmament process it will also have shipped out sixty three percent of its low priority chemicals now damascus missed the december thirty first from move a deadline but has since then sped up the disarmament process however the u.s. complains that this process could be going even quicker than it currently is moving now back here closer to home according to the latest census bureau data there are currently a little over one hundred forty seven thousand people with syrian ancestry living in the united states reuters reports that by the end of january one hundred thirty five thousand syrians apply for asylum in the u.s. but strict immigration standards have kept many of those people out of the country with more civilians looking for a safe exit to a seemingly endless civil war it will be up to the state department now to determine how to handle the situation moving forward right now some two point three
million syrians are currently displaced and they're considered refugees another one hundred fifty thousand people have died in this three year long civil war a war that continues despite exhaustive diplomatic efforts sanctions and international pressure from all sides two rounds of peace talks in geneva have failed to make any progress a third has yet to be scheduled in front of the now shuttered syrian embassy meghan lopez r t. the senate secret report on the cia's torture program just got a little less secret the associated press reports today that the senate intelligence committee found that waterboarding and other harsh interrogation methods didn't provide any key evidence in the hunt for osama bin laden and claim the cia a claim actually that the cia has long disputed former bush administration and senior cia officials have said that simulated drowning sleep deprivation and other torture practices helped the u.s. track down and kill osama bin laden three years ago speaking on the condition of
anonymity congressional aides and outside experts tell the a.p. that the senate report concludes otherwise they point to the case of colleague shaikh mohammed the most high profile detainee linked to bed lot in the cia says the information gleaned from waterboarding him one hundred eighty three times helped them track down bin laden's courier who. the courier who led the cia to bin laden's hideout on that fateful day in two thousand and eleven then there was a boo faraj a levy and other u.s. captive who denied knowing al kuwaiti with with such atomised see that the cia used it to confirm he and k. s.m. were protecting the courier. get a little confusing for you me two congressional aides say the report concludes that neither detainee provided the evidence needed to find the courier instead the information they ca found only confirms what they already knew through the national security agency's information gathering what else can be gleaned from the
classified senate torture report still unknown but senator dianne feinstein is expected to begin to push to declassify the sixty two hundred page report later this week. now today marks a decade since the gruesome killings of four private security contractors in iraq the four men were shot in an ambush in march two thousand and four and burned in their vehicles by an angry mob which hung their mutilated bodies from a bridge very gruesome videos taken from the scene extremely graphic the images became though a symbol of the instability and unrest that would highlight the entire u.s. mission in iraq currently iraq is importing american weapons supplies and you guessed it private contractors to keep the developing incursion at bay. if you're wondering those contractors many of them anyway used to be the same folks hired by the u.s. department of defense according to the wall street journal about five thousand contractors are supporting the american diplomatic mission in iraq more than
a third of those are americans over the next few months the u.s. government is expected to begin sending more than six billion dollars and military equipment to iraq the latest deal includes twenty four apache attack helicopters made by boeing nearly five hundred hellfire missiles produced by lockheed martin now these people and supplies may be bridging the gap until iraq has a self sufficient force to run its country but it might not in my just keep the needing foreign talent to stay afloat for decades here to discuss the reliance on contractors in iraq is retired brigadier general david rice he's the vice president of the potomac institute of policy studies strategy and planning division thank you very much for joining me today it's good to be whimsical thanks for course now we were talking earlier it's ten years since that those terrible deaths and tillage of those those four security contractors it really changed things in the minds of a lot of americans when they saw that video maybe they had realized how difficult a mission it was actually going to be over there what was it like for you seeing
that video. all the way back that in two thousand and four i was in anbar province at the time when it happened obviously first of all the iraqi people most of those that i dealt with did not really back in those actions it was a mob mentality they regretted happening but it was one of those situations that got out of control of course and assembly could have pushed the pause button at that time it would have been ideal unfortunately you can't do that when things get out of control sheen it was the worst thing that probably could have happened at that time but events are what they were exactly in the timing of it so poignant right when all of that was going on back in two thousand and four to have this go viral on the internet it changed the game for a lot of people to understand what was going on on the ground. now that the war is officially over and thousands of contractors supporting the american mission remain and those supporting the defense contractors who are sending their product over you need people to guard those apache helicopters and they get there all those sorts of
things what are many of these contractors roles in the country now who aren't with a diplomatic mission we're talking about essentially defense contractors right we're talking about contractors that the that whoever won that contract that was offered by the iraqi. war the war is over but that's a debatable also because i would not say it is and many iraqi people would not say what but whoever wins those contracts and those are competitively bid and when i was in anbar province the governor offered contracts out to whoever won it so there's other countries that are providing a good amount of support and other countries that are reaping much of the benefits of the economic wealth of iraq at this point that's fair or not that's true a lot of foreign countries are making quite a bit of good money on that's the u.s. it's an awful isn't exactly so yes is it not some would argue that the contracting it's not going to the department of defense anymore but people are still making
good money on iraq not being able to prop itself up fully. could that perhaps have been part of the formulation of that to go in iraq it doesn't turn out ok but hey at least something to make money i wouldn't go there as the stretch where i would go is of iraq has to sit here at this point in time and they've got to find those capabilities that they can they can't provide themselves at this time for us as they do that they have to turn to the most capable people now i don't hold that against any country that wins a contract offers the services and gets compensated accordingly it goes towards intentions know what they're doing if they're after just to make money and there's no ideal noone there to assist and help that's wrong which of course is difficult to. and force in a way right it's always been wishful thinking but yes so that's why when you hire somebody you hire somebody not just based on the cheapest price you hopefully look
at other things that are involved in the contract then you get quality to work some of those intentions and who's going to work best with your or your needs your country ok well let's talk about their needs i mean we're talking about some of the security contractors that iraq really does need us when we're talking about american personnel over there who is responsible for oversight for keeping them safe i mean they're not in the safest situations are now al qaida is making incursions you know no they're not but that's part of the compensation it goes with the contra those workers that are hired to work over there they know exactly what they're getting in for they are compensated for and they get compensated in a much more generous package for example than a u.s. serviceman or woman so that cannot be denied i've heard some insane stories of what they make over that now that's that's part of the capitalism that makes up the fabric of the world that's ok in my opinion it is it is providing that and being honest with. a job tasked with
a job provided and then that's fair ok that's an intention behind the action always i see what you're saying ok retired brigadier general david reiss he is the vice president of the potomac institute for policy studies strategy and planning division thank you very much. state sponsored hackers are more and more taking aim at journalists according to reuters to go google security engineers have found that twenty one of the world's top twenty five news organizations have been the target of likely state sponsored hacking attacks but it's not just known companies like forbes or the new york times doing battle with pro-government hackers most email malware attacks direct the user to web site the tricks them into giving up credentials we've all seen those sorts of things well as it turns out journalists are massively over represented as targets that include citizen bloggers and citizen journalists and bloggers of course around the world and the hackers were overwhelmingly government sponsored the problem is the news organizations have been
relatively slow to respond to this problem. the spotlight is on crimea again as it plays host to its first high ranking visit from moscow prime minister dmitry medvedev is in that country in the regions rather capital this comes on the heels of a meetings between u.s. secretary of state john kerry and his counterpart russian foreign minister sergey lavrov in paris they met to discuss how the two nations can move forward in light of the recent tensions over their political crisis in ukraine artillery financial brings us more details about the discussion from simferopol in crimea so again lavrov from john kerry have met in paris to hammer out a plan to end the crisis in ukraine that is off to president putin has called his american counterpart a most good ones to discuss u.s. for police will do a lot for traffic study both countries still have different view on the events here in the crimean holding he's meeting with russia's foreign minister mr kerry has
read through a fifth of washington considers russia's actions here on the peninsula but had become part of the russian federation again tory i'm here two weeks ago as illegal and illegitimate. we have differences of opinion about the events that led to this crisis but both of us recognize the importance of pollution. simultaneously meeting the needs of the ukrainian people and that we agreed on tonight but despite these disagreements the two state's top diplomats have agreed that the situation in ukraine needs a diplomatic solution and as soon as possible for the sake of the ukrainian people real losers and victims of their situation lever off and kerry have discussed constitutional reforms that have to be implemented in the country to protect minority rights language rights to guarantee dissolve amount of provocateurs who
are usually behind numerous weiland incidents that we saw here in ukraine recently and measures necessary to guarantee free and fair elections in the country there shuttled for may this meeting comes after a series of tit for tat sanctions from american and russian sides including these are bans and asset freezes for some officials and experts say it is a good sign that both countries and are coming back to a dialogue moving away from confrontation minister sergey lavrov has also commented on some of the country's concerns about russia's military forces built up along the ukrainian border he stressed russia has no intention to cross this front here and send its troops to ukraine this is what mr lavrov exactly had to say about that. expressed different views of the causes of screenings crisis and agreed to continue searching for common ground diplomatically we agreed to work with the ukrainian government and was a green people in a broader sense overseeing
a great national interest to minorities the disarmament provoker tours constitutional reform and holding free honest elections international observers. meanwhile russia's prime minister visit crimea on monday that it appears the first russian top official to come here after the referendum ways to integrate this new region into russia's political and social life the main concern of both local residents of authorities here today top the agenda also economic development crime . today's not doing very well the decision has been made to make crimea a special economic zone with tax rates and a tax breaks for investors that could help boost regional economy and attract cash to the region and to read it has also called on old russian regions to help new family member be properly integrated and feel at home rich notion i'm erica from crimea so for open it's thirty five years last friday since the worst nuclear accident in u.s.
history the incident was rated a five on the seven point international nuclear event scale on march twenty fifth twenty eight thousand nine hundred seventy nine one of the reactors at the three mile island nuclear power plant in county pennsylvania partially melted down the extent of the accident was only determined a day later and that's when evacuations began an unknown amount of radioactive gases were released into the atmosphere so at this point injuries and sicknesses attributed to this accident can never actually be proven later though it was found that a combination of design and operator error caused a gradual loss of coolant leading to the meltdown the decommissioning of the plant and restoration the site is still decades away how's this for irony it was on that exact same day march twenty eighth but in two thousand and eleven that workers at the fukushima nuclear complex discovered new pools of radioactive water leaking from the site the leaks are what officials attribute to the soaring levels of radiation spreading to soil and seawater. the folks in texas are
a bit concerned over something mysterious floating above their heads that's right it's an unidentified flying object those of these right here check it out ok these were shot on march tenth by veteran sky watchers in amarillo texas according to experts they do indeed depict quote something real. meaning it's not just a known military flight or somebody playing with photoshop the shots also show that the aircraft is accompanied by two others and radio traffic apparently was picked up suggesting there was a pilot now to us this screams new u.s. spy plane but don't take our word for it let's head over to an expert adored by bill sweetman senior international defense editor at aviation week bill thanks for joining me today welcome please explain what in the world is going on with this you know unidentified flying object what can we tell from these photos what we can tell is that it doesn't look like any type of aircraft were familiar with it doesn't
look like a a b. to the unit that operates those aircraft in missouri it was one of their a craft which is you know pretty specific unusual specific denial from from the air force otherwise no comment. and at least the air force should know what is up there flying around if it's not a civilian flight which is not well i mean the air force you know it may be above the whoever you talk to on the phone maybe above their paygrade the folks up there might know what it is but the guy answering the phone probably doesn't know what we think it could possibly be because you know that contrails and all of these things and one of the veteran sky watchers say. i think that's a wide level of agreement that it's something that we haven't seen before it's something we did so from ours are no no no it's it's an aircraft out of out of a us classified program and the level of expenditure of the level of activity on what we call the black world programs has been has been high for many many years
and we've seen very little of come out of it so it's not at all surprising when we you know when we. see pictures like this all see evidence of secret programs on the way and i would be surprised if we didn't see them now and again now i understand the sky watchers who shot these photos were not only taking pictures of the sky but they were also tracking radio traffic what does that tell us about what is the radio intercepts tell us about the nature of these of these flights or or what's going on with them probably the most likely thing that it tells us is that these are piloted aircraft that's clearly picked up radio traffic someone actually inside the aircraft talking to ground could know it's possible up operate on the ground could be talking to the control of via the aircraft radio that can happen too. but between that and the fact that we.
generally speaking wouldn't fly unmanned aircraft around in formations like there's a risk of a collision it does suggest that the pilot of the aircraft of some kind because there were other aircraft with it yet it was accompanied and i think you know it's not exactly a secret that the us has classified. aircraft programs it has throughout history done these sorts of things without obviously the public knowing things like that what are some of the indications that in the past ok for instance there was. flights flown from britain over to the soviet union during the cold war and the only indication anyone had that this was going on that the public knew about were grainy photographs and eyewitness reports this was back i think in the sixty's and do other people have these sorts of sightings in other countries and in the us i think we've seen we've seen quite a few sightings over time. it's always difficult to get
a clear picture of an aircraft the top of that al future. a lot of these things are just you know. if you look up and if you're not aware of what you're looking for what you what you're looking at you just can see a normal airplane up there so it's very easy for them to pass in plain sight as. these just happen to fly over some experienced watches ok so we could be dealing with new intelligence gathering gathering aircraft i didn't see a man with a red cape up there no absolutely no it's too bad ok thank you very much bill sweetman senior international defense editor at aviation week thank you but the boss is coming up here next on our t.n.a. joins us now for a quick preview. thanks lou you know coming up on boom bust we're talking about michael lewis's new book flash boys it's making waves in the world of high frequency trading and we'll tell you all about it plus we have a steam to british economist roger bootle on today's show he's talking euro zone
and the european economy it's all coming up so stay tuned all right thanks for. that does it for an average body for more of the stories we just covered go to youtube dot com forward slash r t america check out our website to r.t. dot com forward slash usa you can also follow me on twitter lindsay france states the dust is right up just. live. live live live live live .
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ten there i marinating you're watching boom bust and these are some of the stories that we're tracking for you today. now one of my very very favorite financial authors michael lewis released his most recent book on monday called flash boys and it's all about the world of high speed trading and it's making huge waves throughout the financial sphere we'll tell you all about it coming right up then i sat down with this team to british economist roger bootle to discuss the eurozone and you won't want to miss what he has to say about reforming the u. pretty exciting stuff and in today's big deal edward harrison and i are discussing retail or lack there of today's digital marketplace it's all coming up and it all starts right now.
i've been here just as speed high frequency traders well according to michael ware was very lewis says quote the markets are rigged it's a bold assertion from the bestselling author and america's foremost chronicle or of all things financial now lewis his new book flash boys comes out today and on sixty minutes sunday night mr lewis shocked viewers with remarks like this about high frequency trading. insiders are able to move faster than you they're able to see your order. and play it against the waters in ways you don't understand they're able to order in forever means they're able to identify your desire to to buy
shares in microsoft and buy in front of you and sell it back to you at a higher price it all happens. now what might be even more shocking to those in the know is the fact that any of this was shocking to anyone in the first place now we've discussed high frequency trading on this show before and just last month we told you about new york a tourney general eric schneiderman efforts to examine high frequency trading in fact on monday morning schneiderman said lewis said that lewis's new book will help focus attention on this debate now schneiderman's inquiry into high speed trading threatens to disrupt the model that market regulators have permitted for years trading firms pay to place their systems in the very same data exchanges and this is a practice known as co-location and it lets traders shave off milliseconds on transactions now several years ago the founder of trade bought one of the biggest high frequency trading firms said that his firm had nothing and had had not lost and had not had
a losing day in four years well perhaps that's because the firm's average holding period for a stock was eleven seconds eleven seconds so how is it possible for one of the largest high frequency trading firms to execute millions and millions of orders over four years without ever having a down day well the answer in short is that what they're doing is not trading it's called skimming and today it's perfectly legal now while the securities industry has been obsessed with this debate over high frequency trading for almost a decade the discussion has only periodic resurfaced in the public events like the flash crash in may of two thousand and ten in which the dow jones posted an almost one thousand point loss before rebounding in a matter of minutes help to further the. discussion but only so much the bottom line whether you agree or disagree with lewis is the vision his voice brings the debate over high frequency trading to the forefront of the public's consciousness and that is a good thing because today those with money and power have more access than those
without and they can tilt the game in their favor which is in fact rigging the game . roger bootle is a big name in the u.k. and he's the former chief economist at h.s.b.c. and a former forecaster for the u.k. treasury he's also the author of several books including the soon to be released trouble with europe why the e.u. isn't working which focuses on how the e.u. can be reformed and what could potentially take its place now as an economist and managing director at capital economics he won the wolfson prize which was given to the winner of a competition proposals for how the eurozone could safely be broken down that was the subject of our very first question to roger and we asked him what the key components of this euro zone breakup plan would be here's what he had to say. in
two thousand and twelve he won the wolfson prize for your plan on the best way to break up the eurozone can you explain to our viewers what the key components of that plan were. oh sure well the most important thing is this is got to be done actually quickly and then secrets difficult thing to achieve but in absolutes the country simply declares its new currency fulls only exchange. it has to read denominated decked into the currency has to allow the change that that depreciating currency brings in the economy that's the key the pull of the currency makes the country competitive. ok and now that we're in a tentative recovery do you think the eurozone is salvageable. oh sure i think it is so over i think myself that it should be because if you said to me you know why
is the eurozone like your result we're still pretty depressed of the answer i'd get would be the euro i don't think the euro should be so i think it should go in the bin and if that happens then there would be i think the prospect of a decent europe a recovery the moment the fate of the earliest. most people markets goes they it's going to be ok i still think there are some very big dangers now why do you think europe hasn't given consideration to or breakup scenario or other credible ones as well like the one from my variant perceptions jonathan tepper. well it's essentially to do with the most wanted political will this is a political project and into by the european they. consciously something that would bring about. the school political union it's been an enormous gamble an experiment of they've invested a huge amount of reputational capital in it for them to abandon it i think would be
a huge climbdown a money even spell in the european project all together that's why they're reluctant they don't want to declare defeat yet it sounds like your opinion has a genuine belief they actually believe that the euro credibly is the cornerstone of what they want to achieve in your roger i was asking where do you think things are headed in greece from here. well recently there's been some sign that revival in greece has been a number of the peripheral countries credit it's pretty school but you still got this massive decline in output more than twenty percent pushing twenty five percent since the peak that's the sort of fool not so it was experienced in the united states and enough hegemony in the nineteenth. and after that i. guess to looking a little bit best crackly it's still costly unemployment about twenty five percent
of the rules i don't myself away for greece to escape from what list because you can have its debt written off by its creditors it can they can try to default but that's not going to deal with the fundamental problems of doing it competitiveness and i don't think greece's number is so in some of the or do you think that portugal can regain access to the public bond market and kind of escape the trekker pro-trade program free and clear. i'm not sure i think in court your goal is looking a bit better than it was it's position isn't as dire as greece but it's still pretty bad as you know i'm not i think myself one who gets overly on the top of the financial aspects of this. culture they want to go back to the bond markets people will handle as a great triumph in the financial terms it may well be but the underlying reality is
really about the weakness of the economy in the polling the high level of unemployment this is a social and economic catastrophe now roger the ear stands ready to help ukraine now in specific terms german finance minister wolfgang sawyer blah was recently quoted as saying quote if ever we were to reach a situation in which we had to stabilize ukraine we would have many experiences from greece to draw on what is this all about talk to me. well i'm not sure i mean because there isn't a currency unit in the ukraine this is a very very different situation from greece because greece was in the euro. i think anyone got any plans to bring ukraine into the euro i suppose there are all sorts of lessons or he thinks there are lessons about where the money goes what sort of conditions it's made available frankly i think this is potentially another
european disaster ukraine has got a serious need for financial support which is fundamentally thought about liquidity about so messy will be all sorts of fancy words dreamed up by people to describe what is essentially it because it's very i like it i think if you provides large amounts of financial assistance to ukraine sandlot you need to get money back and that's been the lesson of greece and i think it's healthy lively that people would lend to grace will get their money back and i think solution will be the same for you chris i'm glad that you bring up three because i want to ask you do you think that the ears flash i.m.f. program in ukraine will be similar to the wanting greece or is a lot better comparison in your opinion. i'm not sure i mean that the difference with lapierre of course is that map is a small open economy and its staff will got the opportunity to get
out of its difficulties by becoming more competitive and exploiting a lot more that's not the situation with ukraine it's very big it's not very competitive it's not why the move to the outside world is draining the outside world but it started quite integrated of course with the four eastern bloc. i'm not optimistic massive structural reform is needed of course to get it on the straight and narrow i am on the optimistic that it could be anything like a success for the baltics interesting that looking at the ukraine from the russian angle when it comes to sanctions how do you see this playing out for russia and what i mean for example do you think that the week we're bowling well expends weakness and putin's economic strategy. you know i didn't think my so weak rubel is likely to do russian or for the good of men in general are quite a believer in the benefits that cars he can bring them countries that are in
trouble and in particular i think my own country britain is laboring not just to strengthen the exchange rate so i think there is a temptation to some people argue this that in the case of russia that we ruble far from being a problem might actually bring some sort of russian revival and i don't think myself that's going to apply because i don't think there are spare resources in the russian economy to be drawn in to increase output in response to a more competitive exchange rate but also the weakness of the ruble i think is a clear signal to russians but always not well. and so i think it may well not be helpful provost of hussein's regime roger you kind of touched on this before but i want to ask you point blank do you think ukraine will default. well i should know whether it would be very difficult to see how we stay it's a call the way in the current situation. put it this way if i were a bank or think twice. it's time now for
a very quick break but stick around because when we return we're bringing you more from my interview with roger bootle and then in today's big deal edward harrison and i are discussing the death of retail scary stuff but as we had to break here are a look at some eric was the numbers of the bell stick around to. the to the to or. to or to or to or to her to please. please
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and we're back now with more from my interview with roger bootle now in the second half of our conversation roger roger talks more about europe but this time we hone in on the u.k. take a look. well i think there are some disturbing saw it this is really a lot the traditional british recovery it's not quite true because. this is a best what is doing well and look asia really where you get some glimmer of. exports that's still pretty thin so also this has been heavily were consumer spending what's your view on the economic consequences for an independent scotland . well i think it's to me feasible for scotland
to be independent and to manage economically i don't think it's an alter ego i did with the scots or indeed the english. i think initially it's got them or find it pretty difficult it's well known that there's no certainty that scott there were two. teams have been this i think remarkably inflation died there on the part of the scottish government that it will be a was in some sort of share that with all the leading. lessons in london but made it clear that would not be available it's not what they what the options are a new scottish currency but all that i think will be extremely dangerous and the markets would turn against it meanwhile there's a strong tradition in scotland of. putting not socialism but anyway public mindedness let's be charitable. politically and i think the danger would be and
this is borne out by that there are spending promises been made by the scottish national party the danger that scotland would end up will put it charitably not like the country that wants to wait but you know iowa does what it was when successful of the baltics or singapore or whatever it will be more like the east germany used to be wow but i do have to say i like the public mindedness i might have serious that roger but i want to ask you what some of the adverse side effects for england. well economically i'm not sure that they will be that serious there will be some on certain secrecy not required a long time before everything was bundled and they will work know what the eventual settlement be because the british government has said that it would stand by old britain's national debts. even that part of it was nominally assigned the poultice so the news got these government. vessels might worry a bit about that worry about
a whole series of consequences so there could be pressure on the u.k. financial markets. but i doubt most so that they'd be that serious they're pulling the economic benefits because there's no doubt that. he's got his businesses that made it clear that if there would be independent scotland they want to migrate to him but i think it's a problem for people might do that too to another economic sense i don't think it be that much of a problem putting them on even being that benefit because if you're british and i consider myself british you don't like the idea of the break up or. i think there are all sorts of consequences including security and defense consequences which were to me very. interesting now what do you make of the method the bank of england governor mervyn king and fed chairman ben bernanke he used to avert a crisis like it or pan not. well. speaking to us about this. mervyn king who i know and respects and i think has been
a great public servant. i think he would burst them when the process broke as he was actually quite slow to recognize that serious it was and slow to recognize that essentially he had to pull out all the stops and do everything possible there were a system imploding so if you were cool initially he was running around complaining about moral has it suggesting that if the bank gets caught that was going to be potentially a big problem once he finally realized what was going on how serious it was are i don't myself think he's much to be criticized i think he did a pretty good job in very difficult circumstances but going beyond rove and came to the british government in general i think the problem was. not being tough enough with the facts i actually would have nationalized a lot of the british banking system instead of which what we did coast was to buy
shares in several of these brands them and allow them to continue. in a sort of semi commercial crash which was not the one thing nor the other i think we should have to improve control of them and all of them to lend because both the u.k. and the euro rest central bank governor has presided over. this big expansion the money supply of so-called quantitative easing which i was a supporter and i still have. some people and they believe it was going to be the automakers rather somebody who could calculate arithmetically much of an increase in g.d.p. or a pleasure whatever you get from a given injection of the money supply and then of the. stream. area essentially because the monetary system is broken and when it's broder you can pull money into account and you can't be sure it's going to get much response and in the end i think there was some response and i think this did enough to underpin
confidence in the system i wouldn't say that we have the recovery in both america and britain to cross at least i wouldn't go that far but i think it did make a major contribution so bringing in the town center that i had earlier than it would have done and ensuring that the recovery continues and until now you know what i'll skip over ben bernanke see how sam ervin for for your sake but i want to ask you what do you think the challenges are that are facing our successors both mark carney and janet yellen. of the situation both the u.s. and u.k. are similar in the sense that in both countries you've got a recovery you pretty much similar pace and both central banks are going to have to decide where to look what posts to unwind the extraordinary support that it made available in the last couple of years now of course there are two questions one has interest rates and the other is q.e. in the case of america it's what pay she winds down the continuing exercise she
would be least for the time being was docked in q.e. but the question is of course what do we do about this huge stock of options that rests on the bank of england's books certainly in the states but the fed got a huge stock of poems and zero interest rates what they produce is they've got a move in time it's either an inflation which. or a possible developing a potential markets which when it burst if it bursts could cause another financial crisis but a good judge this very keen that at the same time on the other side well it will make sure we don't raise interest rates too far team soon in such a way that they actually call it a recovery that's what lady it was a very very difficult judgment to make actually. that was economist and author roger bootle time now for today's big deal.
big deal time average harrison and i are discussing oh yes. those wonderful unifying pieces of americana were teenagers in the eighty's and ninety's wasted away their time in parents' money before they've been fading away in recent years but they aren't dead yet but they certainly seem to be dying that's for sure they seem to be. check out these graphs the first graph shows the rent trend for office space and as you can see it bubbled up in two thousand and eight and then sharply sharply declined but throughout the post recession period it's been moving up slowly so that's that's positive enough check out this next graph that we have for you it's a graph on the rent trend for physical retail stores now after two thousand and eight you can certainly see a decline but the trend still depressed suggests something different and while this might be an example of a cyclical decline which relates to the boom bust cycle of our economy day to day month to month year to year now or it could be a secular decline which is
a more long term trend so ed what are the details behind these two graphs in your opinion well you know if you go back even further than the growth. post world war two was marked by the suburbanization of the us and so malls became the big thing you know it was and all exactly and so over to say the sixty's the seventy's in the eighty's that was a booming sort of thing you had more and more malls but by the time they got to the ninety's there was saturation so what we're seeing is the fact that there's a saturation there there's also a move away from these these huge doors the macy's of the world's two you know smaller sort of retail outlets and what that has meant is that there's a consolidation go it all. in particular you know the fact that you have online that's a big deflationary force that causes you know lower margins so as these companies go ride through these difficult times like the great recession going to see
a huge purge of retail space as a result and this is obviously an atoll but the past you know i'd say nine months recently i haven't gone into a store to buy something unless it was like this restaurant where i buy everything that i own online i know you know what i mean. and i like shopping online so. now i ask you is this a secular or a secular thing going on what i think you know i think that the first graph you showed would show. commercial rents going up that was a cyclical phenomenon this is more of a secular phenomenon it's not only because we had a saturated market but it's also because of all the whole deflationary forces i was talking about you being the physical store that tells you what's going on exactly and what we're really looking for that coffee table book. operative a. different mall yes malls that are kind of in decline or decrepit in their heyday
was the out of the if so i would have. been right along if this is secular decline a long term decline which is secular decline you know that is secular cyclical is up and down straight now what are the factors that could contribute to this climb or turn into you had word what are the factors that are contributing other than shopping online and you know the fact that. they're consolidating. and consolidation the shopping online and also the demographic trends that are changing in america you know people. have less to spend and as a result of the euro it's exactly the same thing when terms of retail that you see for the economy as a whole is going to depress your ability to get the average dollar and so that's going to. and you know that's going to bring down the reds right where these retail outlets now i've heard what's the relationship between the health of the physical retail market and the consumption market that we're you know or just the health of
consumption in general in the u.s. what's the relationship you know it's kind of murky because of the whole. i think people look at fed ex in the u.p.s. as more of a bellwether for what's going on in the economy than they used to you know you might think a wal-mart is sort of the prototypical economic bellwether this is what's happening in the economy and you know you know when you think of the economy you also think of fed ex delivery and that's because of all the laws but there you have it and as always thank you you enlighten me and all of us out there that's all for now but you can see all segments featured in today's show on you tube at youtube dot com slash boom bust our teeth well so love hearing from you so please check out our facebook page facebook dot com slash boom bust our t. you can also tweet us at aaron aid at edward n.h. from all of us here boom bust thank you for watching.
. the. we should not have invaded iraq britain was responsible that as much as the united states and it was wrong russia condemned it quite rightly but. in the same way well wait a second excuse me where is the violation of international law when the president has already been established in the judgment has already been brought down in the international courts from the situation in kosovo from the situation in south sudan again you can't have it both ways you can't be the arbiter of international law one day and then the defender of international law the next manipulating you to your own advantage this is the policy of the united states and the western powers more generally and somehow they don't like it when another country with its power flexes its muscles in order to protect its own strategic interests this is an absolute absurdity.
coming up on our t.v. police fire tear gas on protesters has demonstrations against police turned violent in albuquerque new mexico the latest on that just ahead. and it's been a decade since the murder of four security contractors in iraq a gruesome event that highlighted the risk for helping fight america's wars abroad a look at defense contractors in iraq just ahead. and in the skies another texas flies a mystery photos give us a glimpse of what could be a new secret spy plane more on that mystery in aviation later in the show. it's monday march thirty first five pm here in washington d.c. .